Monday 8 October 2012

OH WHAT A TANGLED WEB WE WEAVE WHEN FIRST WE PRACTICE TO DECEIVE

Andrew Mitchell's "Pleb" recent outburst at Police Officers outside Downing Street has been "very damaging" to the Tory Party. So says Defence secretary Philip Hammond today in a further attempt to "draw a line" under the whole affair.


But it wasn't just Mitchell's  "F*cking Pleb" outburst which caused the damage, it was the fact that he lied and lied again over what was actually said and to what extent leading to the point where police officers had to to publish their own witness statements in a national newspaper.

His absence from the Tory Party conference in Birmingham (where his constituency is)  this week on the grounds that being there would be a distraction, is an admission if ever needed that his current position is untenable and his authority as the Government Chief Whip shot to pieces.


Meanwhile Tory  Party chairman and previous Housing Minister Grant Shapps will also be causing a distraction this week after it was revealed that he used a "Nom De Plume" Mr Michael Green to help sell a get rich quick scheme for a company he ran and then passed onto his wife. A probe into Mr Shapps is now focusing on his claims to be a self-help guru called Michael Green on a website called howtocorp.com. Mr Shapps continued to use the name Michael Green for his business interests throughout the 2005 election campaign and his early years as an opposition MP. ‘Mr Green’ charged clients £183 an hour for advice on how to make money from the web as well as offering tips on how to beat the recession blues, including splashing out on a jet-ski or learning to play the guitar.


A complaint to the ASA alleges that the website misled the public by presenting Michael Green as a genuine businessman with a personal fortune of £17 million, who would share the secrets of his success for a fee.

So what it is with politicians and their "pen'chance" for what Churchill described as 
"terminological inexactitudes" which most of us refer to as "Porkie Pies" and how do our local Cllrs compare with their national counterparts in comparison?

Well in my promised second expos'e of the quality of current Cllrs at NBC I ask you to consider the following tale of business dealings and then decide if this is the calibre of representative we really need at the Guildhall.


A few years ago a businessman based both in Northampton and also the North took a court action out against a large Northern Council supposedly for non payment of asylum seeker rents on properties he managed.

The claim for a large sum of public money was disputed by the Council, not surprisingly at the time as the Council doubted whether or not whether some of the properties had indeed been used for this purpose and also whether or not the asylum seekers said to have stayed there actually existed in the first place.

As part of the hearing a company in Northampton was made aware of their involvement in the action and also informed that their company name had been used as part of the claim and some of their properties involved in the invoices which had been submitted in their name and on their headed note paper. This was news to them, most notably because they had no business or properties in the North.


So they attended the court, to give evidence that they had no involvement whatsoever in the action and didn't now how their name had been used in such a way, and were very surprised to see a well known Northampton businessman in court putting forward the case, at this point the businessmen apparently got quite upset, and asked for an adjournment, immediately afterwards he and his lawyers immediately withdrew the action against the Council and dropped the case.


The businessman then concentrated on bringing an action on the Northampton Company to try to prove that he was as he had expressed to the court a partner of the said Northampton firm and had been working with them all along on the letting of properties in the North.



This case was heard by Leicester Crown Court. The Northampton company had to spend a considerable amount of money proving that papers submitted to the court by the businessman were in fact forgeries, they were in many cases false documents constructed from their headed notepaper a copy of which the businessman was in possession of. The judge during the hearing become increasingly frustrated at the inability of the businessman to offer any concrete evidence of the partnership other than continuous here-say and photocopied documents. A handwriting analyst had also submitted condemning evidence to the court informing them that in their view the signatures on the documents submitted by the businessman had been forged. 

In a last minute attempt to quash the overwhelming evidence against him and change the direction of the case the businessman finally came up with an original document to back up a photocopied already submitted. This he presented to the court. Comically, but with serious consequence the dates on the original submitted and the photocopy produced from it were then seen to not be a match.

The court understandably found in favour of the Northampton Company and the Judge it is said expressed a that view a fraud had been committed and suggested that the Police investigate the matter.

No police investigation took place as the businessman immediately afterwards had incredibly appealed against the courts findings prolonging the case, with little hope of success The appeal was as expected subsequently dismissed. 

In addition to his dealings in court and despite being a businessman of supposedly considerable income and wealth an application for Housing Benefit was also submitted to Northampton Borough Council during this period. But having been elected to the Council the Housing Benefit Application at the businessman's family home seems to have been "withdrawn" or "not processed"


Does the above sound like a fit and proper person to hold office as an elected Labour councillor?

I have not named the individual and as always offer to them the opportunity to contact me to correct anything above that they feel is not accurate, but my concern here and also above at what is happening at national level in the Tory Party is that I believe we should expect a higher level of integrity and business practise from those who then go on to stand for election? 

And shouldn't those elected to office also consider what effect their past dodgy business practises (when revealed) will have on the overall standing of politicians and other party colleagues that may be affected by the "all tarred with the same brush" mentality.

We deserve far better from our national and local politicians, and it was George Orwell who told us that "In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act" So long live the revolution



 

38 comments:

  1. I feel that some form of chronology would assist this. When did all this happen Tony?

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  2. Andrew Mitchell, about a month a go, Grant Shapps/Michael Green between 2004 and 2009 Local Cllr Between 2005 and 2009

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  3. Now all you budding Sherlock’s, Male Labour NBC Councillor WE KNOW THERE are nine now (2011), BUT I think we are looking at the period 2005 - 09 the Male Labour Council total (I think) for the 2007 Election was only two elected?

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  4. And out of that two ONLY one is still at NBC as a Councillor - Do I get a prize.....

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  5. Something sounds a bit shifty here.

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  6. tony.
    i see youy point,but should you be keeping the above inside council chambers, as surely you cllrs have your own way of dealing with that happen within councill chambers.at one time you had the standards board,and protocols which was drew up 2008 by the seatary of state to control internal prombems with cllrs on the nbc and ncc.now isee you have a new one[the standards committee are responsible for promoting and mantaining HIGH STANDARDS of conduct by coucillors] you[.i note the new standards have a meeting 15 oct 2012,to finalise there actions of operations.i should think, after reading your blog,there first job will be to bring YOU,and the other cllr other you are accusing before them.before YOUR private accusations on your BLOG get out of hand.members of the public and your fellow cllrs will be assuming wrongly which cllr is concerned.
    you have already implied about partys,[house partys] which narrows my oppion of which cllr you have in mind.i can not understand what both leaders of both the nbc and ncc are doing letting things like this ,PRIVATE allegations outside coumcil chambers before being proved inside council chambers. hoping new standards committee takes this up and make cllrs keep to there PROTOCOLS that they keep
    to them,has they sign up to do,and go through proper channells,in stead of using a BLOG to make PRIVATE accusations.

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  7. Anon, the standards regime is toothless and only deals with misconduct of Cllrs in their role as a Cllr,

    my point is that if a party (any party) is aware of issues like this and choose not to act, then what does that say about their own internal discipline?

    I also don't make accusations, I simply inform people of factual events all of which can be backed up if necessary with printed documents and witnesses

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  8. Anonymous may i refer you to the fallen Liberal Democrat Leader Tony Woods and the expense and embarassment he cost Northampton, his punishment? writing a letter of apology to his fellow councillors, its a shameless excuse for Standards.

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    1. That became known as the Garibaldi Period...

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  9. tony.
    your comment is [TRUE]the standards regime,only deals with misconduct of councillors in there ROLE AS A COUNCILLOR. the last time time i looked you was serving as a councillor on the ncc [ind] what do you annouce your self as if not acouncillor,i hope the new standards regime on both ncc and nbc take note of your oppion of them.if you do not class yourself as a cllr,do you look at yourself as the third M.P.of np/ton [UNPAID]?

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    1. anonymous
      In the name of God learn how to construct a sentence before you fire off another missive , your comments are totally senseless and I am still trying to work out if you are for or against Cllr Clarke

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  10. Anon above, I don't understand the question? I am a Cllr yes at NCC and I have even had to suffer a host of Standards Boards complaints over the years,all political all false and all either thrown out or withdrawn, but my point here and in the blog which began this thread is that Parties have responsibility for their own Cllrs as well as the Councils they serve on.

    I have gone out of my way to praise the Labour Group on NCC for being a good example whilst asking why their colleagues over at the Town Hall continue to turn a blind eye to wrongdoing, as to being the third MP (unpaid)are you suggesting there are another 2? When I was MP I had an office in the Town Centre fully staffed where people could reach me and where they could get help and advice five days a week, now?

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  11. Anonymous who cant put two words together, are you one of those down my way?

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  12. tish.and,teddymcnabb.
    i am sorry about my lack of education.

    tish,you tell me to learn how to conduct a sentance, and yet YOU start yours [in the name of god] whats he got to do with it.

    as for working out whether i am for cllr clarke or against,is for you to work out. like i have about the two of you.

    i think you both may be followers cllr clarkes, as clearly for every body to see, you have both followed the way i wrote my two blogs,tish, you write [how to conduct a sentance]. teddymcnabb,you write two blogs further down,[icant? put two words together,] you are right i would have put iCAN NOT?.

    now seeing that you have made comments about me, and me about you lets stop this.

    seeing we are all three using a [alias] we can go on for a week like this, and not harm each other.

    as cllr clarkes blog is not about you two,
    and myself.make this an end to our little conflict.



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    1. Fair enough, but I am not in conflict with you, I just want to point out that your comments are still unintelligble! and it's "construct a sentence! not "conduct a sentance" and I mean that in a kind, caring and nurturing way

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  13. God forbid (apologies for starting a sentence with reference to a deity) that I ever have followers!

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  14. Tony,
    Can I assure you I'm not a follower-an acolyte perhaps,but certainly not a follower.
    I must say I didn't realise Teddy McNabb was an alias(in brackets) so come on out McNabb-what is your real name-Anonymous?
    In brackets of course!

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  15. mmmmmm.... does an acolyte point upwards or downwards? or is that a stalactite and stalagnite?

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  16. Oh Mr Clarke..... surely you mean stalagmite?


    Gary

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  17. [ teddy mcnabb ] in brackets lol

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  18. tony.
    i have left this reply for two days.as you know in my third blog i stated that your blog was not about myself and your two bloggers.
    but yourself and other members, they went on for another 7 blogs.

    this making 21 comments, as this left only 8 comments about your main point,leaving 13 comments useless to your blog.

    example terrymcnabb, yourself, john dickie, seem to think that the use of brackets is just for the use of the independent party.

    tony,take a look at at teddy mcnabbs post of 11/12/2009 reads.[it makes a mockery ot that one] the next one [not the calibre of our armed forces,poicle,fire servives] and next [anonymous of course].

    as you can see in 2009, brackets he used ,but takes the micky, along with you,and john dickie in 2012, when i used them.

    teddy, oct 12 you wrote [terry mcnabb]in brackets.0. but yousee it is now the 14 of oct.and if you look back, it is NOW [terry mcnabb]in brackets .1. you wrote it yourself.

    tony i think we forget that these blogs go all over np/ton. so please let this one end here .like i surgested 7 blogs ago as we are completely of your main subject 14 blogs ago.
    tony isee john dickie came to your aid .and you made an error when you replied. picked up by a member of the public.


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  19. Anon, you and your comments in brackets or not are very welcome, I do not judge people on their grammar, to do so would be hypocritical given my own failings, I judge people only on what they say, my apologies to you if I did not understand your question and I agree I would rather stick to the subject just as much as others are happy to sweep it all under the. arpet

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  20. OK Anonymous, let's get back to the substance of this piece.
    TC has indicated that there are three members of the Borough Labour Group who have behaved in a thoroughly anti-socialist and uncomradely way.Nothing to do with standards boards or NBC processes or even any passing deity.
    They have not behaved in the way that Labour councillors should do.
    This blog has given then the opportunity to respond.
    They have not.
    What conclusions do you draw dear Anon?
    That the labour Party has people within it that behave badly and unwilling to confront such behaviour?
    The local leadership, who read this blog are silent-thus condoning their actions?
    TC has asked questions, will anyone in the Labour party ever respond?

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  21. tony.
    sorry as i said my last comment let this end.

    you your self SAID sweep it uder the carpet. but john dickie can not take a hint, not your fault.

    but if you can not control your ex/ agent or present, how do you expect to win elections.

    i know you are a clever and very strong person in your position,but john dickie does not obvious think the same

    as i said last night this blog goes all over np/ton for people to read john dickie is not convinced that you can wipe the floor with me if you wished.

    i know you could.but john as your agent should have more faith in you.may be you need a new agent for next election, one with more faith in you. sorry but john is showing a weakness in you that does not exsist

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  22. Anonymous
    Do you have difficulty in reading?Please re-read the last sentence of Tony's last comment "others are happy to sweep it all under the carpet"
    Who Dear anon. do you think the 'others' are?
    Tony,me or the local Labour Party?
    And what on earth are you gibbering on about 'weakness'?
    From your ramblings I take it your a loyal Labour party member-shouldn't you be asking your colleagues about their weakness?
    Their silence is deafening.Do they, and you condone the behaviour of the councillors TC described?
    How about a full enquiry-would you support that?

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  23. tony
    sorry, once again i started talking to you, but i think your blog is breaking down. so i will still do it, only i think we have a bug.my first comment was to you not to any one else.

    some one by the name john dickie keeps turning up. do you know him is he someone of the past.

    he seems to be some one trying to hold on to the limelight, at your expense.

    he seems to be your shadow and echo.the public who support you must
    be as fed up with this as iam. they know in my last two comments ihavetried to stop this, but your echo keeps popping up. ido apologize to the general public for not having the education,and experiance of john dickie/s

    but aboubt the enquiry,john you ask about.i think tony said if those
    peole did not come forward he wood expose them,so this would bring what you want.

    once again tony i do apologize to you.but if people like john thinks you can not handle your own affairs.what will people think.

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  24. Anonymous,
    Could you re-read your last post and then explain it please?
    Do you really think a blog is a private conversation?
    Let me try a simple approach to help you, all you need do is answer yes or no-that is as simple as it gets,remember yes or no!
    1.Do you accept TC's original premise that within the current Labour group at NBC there is a member who appears to have been engaged in some dubious business transactions?(remember yes or no)
    If you answer no,then game over,there is no point in going on.
    If however you answer yes to that question then the next simple question is
    2.Do you believe that councillor is bringing the Labour Party into disrepute?
    3.If your answer is still yes, then
    3.Do you a loyal Labour Party member believe there should be an enquiry?
    If you managed to get this far and are still answering yes
    Final question
    What dear anonymous are you going to do about it to restore the integrity of the Labour Party?
    You may answer with more than a yes or a no to that one.

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  25. tony.
    hes at it again.he assumes i am a member of the labour party i am not.

    is it you or john dickie that wants those nbc cllrs to be investigated, only i find john wants me to answer to him i first spoke to you on the subject, and hope iam ending this speaking to you not to john.as i thougt it was you who first brougt the subject to light, 29 comments ago.not john, he wants a investigation more than you? i will not get into to any comments further with him as he came into this without you or i asking to do so, iknow he is your friend not mine.

    johns above comment about me being a loyal labour party member,he has assumed this hiself.mind you i would rather be a labour party member than a indepentent,if john is a example of how an independant acts.

    sorry tony once again not your fault again now,for the fourth time PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE,PLEASE, ask john to stop.as all i done was anwer your BLOG like YOU ask us to reply to FOR or AGAINST.,

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  26. Anonymous
    What are you for or against?

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  27. tony.
    your hiccup has been on again.this time asking whether iam against your blog.i have nothing,against your blogs, as it gives a number of us something in reading them, and answering them.

    but i am against john dickies blog of saturday aug 25.

    the one about the ROYAL FAMILY and johns swearing,as children read there parents laptops.

    after all the name calling of footballers just lately. i would have
    througt insults about the ROYAL FAMILY would have been worst.

    now that must expain to john of what iam AGAINST. and maybe this may give him his investigastion he wants so much. ,


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  28. Anonymous,
    You appear to have moved from the mildly pointless to the surreal.Please keep writing in your drivelish way-I'll soon have enough material for several columns and even a small book.
    Tell us, when you think of the Saxe-Coberg Gothas' do you think in capital letters?
    As I have no recollection of what I wrote on August 25th can you remind me what dreadful piece of obscene language I used?
    You can use asterisks if it helps.

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  29. Now now boys play nicely, or else I will need to write another blog piece

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  30. tony, sorry this comment is long but as you know, owing to johns loss of memory he as asked me help him out.
    i tate your point play nicely boys. after this comment,if there is any more between john and myself,we will use johns missing blog.

    tony you can help recover his memory ,more than i ,as you was the only one who used his comment section.

    i will take johns questions of his comments, on your blog of 19 oct.
    johns first point.to keep writing in my drivelish way,he will soon enough material for several columns,as his in the chrons is failing badly, it has gone from one day a week ,to one day in three weeks [a sign of failure].

    i can not comment on sax/coberg cothos i do not know what it means.

    now we can both refresh johns memory,his blogspot about his comments on the royal family and swearing, was made on sat 25 aug on his own blogspot called,[john dickies disenting voice].

    his blog is headed, Prince harry has a arsx /big deal.and goes on running the royal family downand also our armed forces.also using the swear words of arsx.and then goes on to say he,prince harry was flashing his bollxxxs.

    tony you know what john printed as you replied to johns blog on the 2 sept,one week later by saying.
    i misread the above and thought this blog started with(Prince harry is an arsx) not has a arsx.

    good to see your anti monarchy sentiment remains so strong ,but how about President harry? after all he has little royal blood in his line.}/ i must admit your comment surprises me you being a ex mp
    i througt a ex mp role would be to protect the royal family.
    now as john has asked to refresh his memory,}} of which i have done with your help.as you tony know his blog well,can now refresh his memory without any of you,coming back at me.i have only done what john requested.

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  31. Dear Anon,
    You may have noticed that the Chron. has gone from a daily to a weekly and have re-organised their columns to two fairly non contentious columnists and three more controversial writers on a monthly rota.
    Yup, I'm a failure.
    Thank you for reminding me where my blog was,surprised that an ardent royalist(not in capital letters) as yourself is unaware of the family name of your own dear Queen.Her grandfather decided that the name of a minor German princeling might be a tad provocative in the early 20c. Hence they called themselves after a castle!
    If you've ever bothered to read anything I've ever written you might have realised that I'm a republican.
    But when are you ever going to comment on TC's original point?
    By the way,don't bother to comment on anything on my blog-I will only pour scorn and make mock of you,and you know I deplore gratuitous cruelty to defenceless creatures.

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  32. john.this is becoming tom and jerry cartoon,why are you so set against about me making any comment about your blog of 25/aug.

    you asked on the 19 of oct to help you out, you said you could not remember any thing about it, i did this told you it was about the royal family,and the swear words you used.
    ,,
    but on the 21/oct you make a poor attept at stopping me printing any thing more about your blog of the 25 aug,you state in your threat that will pour scom over me and make a mock,ofyou must know a blog is designed for comment.

    so let me get ahead and mock you first as the public has seen, that is what you wish to do to me.

    so john do not walk around town looking like a garden gnome looking
    the northampton in bloom compotition.

    i also notice you was a school teacher,so will i geta detenion for writing this,or the cane.

    but what ever your comment is to this i will not reply.john you are past your sell by date, like me. you will not make it back in to the limelight,by trying to beat a nobody like me.i am ashamed you ever tried.

    so now i must opologise to the users of this blog they must have been as bored as i was, but john would not shut up.sorry for the mistakes in my comments,as this wasonly my second attempt of any comment to a blog,hope i inproved as i went along.

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    1. Anon
      You have not improved as you've gone along.

      John Gnome

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  33. Anon,
    No you didn't improve.
    John Gnome

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